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Post by Rodo115 on Wed 15 Mar - 13:08

cwi wrote:
Wookey wrote:
Rodo115 wrote:
Wookey wrote:Ensoleillé
2 août 1964 - Nürburgring
15 tours x 22.810 km - 342.150 km

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Rouen-les-Essarts (French GP)

That is Cahier's opinion, but some expert (Thunder?) said otherwise some time ago

It is clearly Rouen-les-Essarts...  
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But looking at Clark's helmet and goggles, I would rather say Rouen 1962
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I agree with Chris. There is no doubt that it is Rouen, and maybe he is right that it is in 1962. Clark's helmet matches and Surtees has a lot of hair.
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Re: Formula 1 pictures of 1964

Post by vasko13598 on Wed 15 Mar - 18:57

Evidently the hair is the main clue for solve the mystery. Excellent job, friends! Smile
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Re: Formula 1 pictures of 1964

Post by Rodo115 on Sun 19 Mar - 0:50

Wookey wrote:Ensoleillé
23 août 1964 - Zeltweg
105 tours x 3.200 km - 336.000 km

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This photo is inverted as a mirror.
Here is the correct form:
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Re: Formula 1 pictures of 1964

Post by Rodo115 on Sun 19 Mar - 21:24

GP von Osterreich - Zeltweg

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Re: Formula 1 pictures of 1964

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Re: Formula 1 pictures of 1964

Post by Rodo115 on Tue 21 Mar - 13:51

Wookey wrote:Ensoleillé
6 septembre 1964 - Monza
78 tours x 5.750 km - 448.500 km

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Re: Formula 1 pictures of 1964

Post by Rodo115 on Tue 21 Mar - 16:17

Wookey wrote:Ensoleillé
6 septembre 1964 - Monza
78 tours x 5.750 km - 448.500 km

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In these 6 photos the car is a Ferrari 1512 model that did not officially debuted until the US GP of 1964. In the photos where the driver is Bandini clearly are from 1965.
However, I have a slight doubt about what Surtees is driving because in Monza-64 he used the number 2 and in 1965 the number he used was 8.
On the other hand, in the race of Monza-65 no one used the Nº2 but there is information that John tried in practices a 1512 with the Nº2.
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My question is: Does anyone have information that in Monza-64 Surtees I have tried out a 1512 practice with No. 2?
If nobody has that information, I would be inclined to think that all the photos are from 1965.
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Re: Formula 1 pictures of 1964

Post by Rodo115 on Tue 21 Mar - 23:02

Wookey wrote:Ensoleillé
6 septembre 1964 - Monza
78 tours x 5.750 km - 448.500 km

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Re: Formula 1 pictures of 1964

Post by Rodo115 on Wed 22 Mar - 0:24

Wookey wrote:Ensoleillé
6 septembre 1964 - Monza
78 tours x 5.750 km - 448.500 km

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In my opinion this is not the Lotus 25 by Chris Amon, who did not really appear in the GP.
Maybe it's Geki's De Sanctis F3.
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Re: Formula 1 pictures of 1964

Post by Thunder on Wed 22 Mar - 9:41

Rodo115 wrote:In these 6 photos the car is a Ferrari 1512 model that did not officially debuted until the US GP of 1964. In the photos where the driver is Bandini clearly are from 1965.
However, I have a slight doubt about what Surtees is driving because in Monza-64 he used the number 2 and in 1965 the number he used was 8.
On the other hand, in the race of Monza-65 no one used the Nº2 but there is information that John tried in practices a 1512 with the Nº2.
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My question is: Does anyone have information that in Monza-64 Surtees I have tried out a 1512 practice with No. 2?
If nobody has that information, I would be inclined to think that all the photos are from 1965.
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These 2 photos are from 1964 (4 others - 1965, you're right):
Wookey wrote:Ensoleillé
6 septembre 1964 - Monza
78 tours x 5.750 km - 448.500 km

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Compare with this photo:
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Look at the engine cover and position of the number on the side of the car - in 1965 these details are different. And look at the engine - for example, only six electric cables in 1964.
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