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Re: Wookey F1 Challenge story (comments and discussion)

Message par Luigi 70 le Lun 20 Fév - 22:58

I do not understand what the problem is.
I always imported / exported the F1 seven's files with zmodeler, without having problems, can you be clearer scratch
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Re: Wookey F1 Challenge story (comments and discussion)

Message par De Lacrowe le Lun 20 Fév - 23:02

@ dragonsteincole

1. Import the main shape of the car, the import left front tire and left rear tire
2. Determine the Center of the tires with Local Axes/Center to object function.
3. They position the tires in the coordinates that I previously reported in the message
4. Export only the tires to apply effects and the final texture with 3dsimed software
5. Through this software I can generate the twin copies for the right tires, with suitable filters and textures
6. Export new tires with .mts extension, ready to be replaced with old tires


Many steps but that ultimately pay off the full your good work  Very Happy
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Re: Wookey F1 Challenge story (comments and discussion)

Message par dragonsteincole le Mar 21 Fév - 17:00

I have tried my best, but unfortunately there are a number of issues cropping up in trying to follow those instructions. I think I need to point out at this point that the wheel and tire are two different objects in the 1970 mod, they're not 1 model.

Another is that I don't have much experience with 3DSimEd. I have a copy, but it's not common knowledge to me how to 'generate' copies and mirror objects with that program. I've only really used it in pointing out missing textures and cross-reference texture file names.
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Re: Wookey F1 Challenge story (comments and discussion)

Message par De Lacrowe le Mar 21 Fév - 18:31

@ dragonsteincole

Zmodeler : to merge the TIRE with its RIMS you have to use the parameter Attach, after which follow the explanation that I wrote yesterday.

Import with 3dsimed with function Import as objects, through the editing function select the CENTER button
In the POSITION parameter add the negative symbol ( - ), and close by pressing the FLIP button, and there you will have positioned the tire on the right side




Export the tire through the path you see in the image below



Rename the tire you've obtained using a type name xxx_RF_wheel.mts, and repeat these steps for the rear tire.

( Nb. If it is forbidden to explain this information to the type of topic created, I can do it privately )
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Re: Wookey F1 Challenge story (comments and discussion)

Message par dragonsteincole le Mar 21 Fév - 22:52

Just pointing out, I had to download an older version of 3DSimEd to make this happen, apparently 3.0k doesn't have any sort of plain standard 'Edit Objects' window

But there was a small success, following those instructions I ended up with a car with the edited wheels in the Spinner, however as soon as I tried to load a test session I got this error in the trace file:

hdvehicle.cp 2560: Vehicle has zero or negative inertia in at least one direction

Which... I have never seen before Shocked
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Re: Wookey F1 Challenge story (comments and discussion)

Message par De Lacrowe le Mer 22 Fév - 0:27

@ dragonsteincole

Each version of 3dsimed can import an object, however, you can use the function keys CTRL + Maiusc + I




Select the object and press the right mouse button, and you're receiving the image below, EDIT select the item to get the total facility to change parameters




You will get this window down here, you have done this you can change the parameters to fix the car




At the end you have to export the object with the explanation of the previous message.
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Re: Wookey F1 Challenge story (comments and discussion)

Message par dragonsteincole le Mer 22 Fév - 22:13

I want to thank you for being patient with me and trying to help, but there's a point I keep making that seems to be lost every time - there are difference between the versions of 3DSimEd that are confusing the issue.

Just to get this out the way too, I DO know how to Import as Objects, and how to export as .mts files, those don't need to be explained each time. But let me demonstrate where the confusion is occuring.

http://i.imgur.com/B5Isufx.png

This is the only menu that pops up when you right-click an object with version 3.0k of 3DSimEd. I actually bought a key years ago, hence why i'm using this particular version. As you can see, whilst there are similarities between the two, there's functions that are missing. Whilst the edit toolbar at the top of the program has options such as "Center Object" and "Center Model", each of those have multiple options, and I am not aware of which one specifically does what the original 'Center" button does.

I am very keen to get this correct, as I agree that the repositioned wheels are a benefit. However this has now become the only thing preventing me from sending Wookey a completed set of cars, which I feel is slightly unfair.
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Re: Wookey F1 Challenge story (comments and discussion)

Message par Luigi 70 le Mer 22 Fév - 22:46

Luigi 70 a écrit:I do not understand what the problem is.
I always imported / exported the F1 seven's files with zmodeler, without having problems, can you be clearer scratch

but we explained to me once and for all where is the problem. scratch
With ZModeler you can easily import and export the tires and rims file (F1 seven too) to any location you want (with absolute or relative axis center system you want) and with any texture you want (bmp, tga)Exclamation

PS: I want to remember for those who do not know, that I've also participated in the implementation of the 1970-72-76-77-78 seasons. So I know very well those types of files Neutral
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Re: Wookey F1 Challenge story (comments and discussion)

Message par Wookey le Ven 24 Fév - 10:36

This is the provisory entry list for British GP held at Silverstone. To be raced soon. Any reaction welcomed before the race Smile

N° Pilote Écurie Constructeur Moteur Pneus
1 Graham HILL Gold Leaf Team Lotus Lotus 49B Ford Cosworth DFV V8 3.0 Firestone
2 Jochen RINDT Gold Leaf Team Lotus Lotus 49B Ford Cosworth DFV V8 3.0 Firestone
3 Jackie STEWART Matra International Matra MS80 Ford Cosworth DFV V8 3.0 Dunlop
4 Jean-Pierre BELTOISE Matra International Matra MS84 Ford Cosworth DFV V8 3.0 Dunlop
5 Denny HULME Bruce McLaren Motor Racing McLaren M7A Ford Cosworth DFV V8 3.0 Goodyear
6 Bruce McLAREN Bruce McLaren Motor Racing McLaren M7C Ford Cosworth DFV V8 3.0 Goodyear
7 Jacky ICKX Motor Racing Developments Ltd Brabham BT26A Ford Cosworth DFV V8 3.0 Goodyear
8 Jack BRABHAM Motor Racing Developments Ltd Brabham BT26 Ford Cosworth DFV V8 3.0 Goodyear
9 John MILES Gold Leaf Team Lotus Lotus 63 Ford Cosworth DFV V8 3.0 Firestone
10 Jo SIFFERT Rob Walker / Jack Durlacher Racing Team Lotus 49B Ford Cosworth DFV V8 3.0 Firestone
11 Chris AMON Scuderia Ferrari SpA SEFAC Ferrari 312 Ferrari 255C V12 3.0 Firestone
12 Pedro RODRIGUEZ Scuderia Ferrari SpA SEFAC Ferrari 312 Ferrari 255C V12 3.0 Firestone
14 John SURTEES Owen Racing Organisation BRM P139 BRM P142 V12 3.0 Dunlop
15 Jackie OLIVER Owen Racing Organisation BRM P133 BRM P142 V12 3.0 Dunlop
16 Piers COURAGE Frank Williams Racing Cars Brabham BT26A Ford Cosworth DFV V8 3.0 Dunlop
17 Trevor TAYLOR Mike Costin Cosworth 1 Ford Cosworth DFV V8 3.0 Dunlop
18 Jo BONNIER Ecurie Bonnier Lotus 63 Ford Cosworth DFV V8 3.0 Firestone
19 Vic ELFORD Antique Automobiles McLaren M7A Ford Cosworth DFV V8 3.0 Goodyear
20 Derek BELL Bruce McLaren Motor Racing McLaren M9A Ford Cosworth DFV V8 3.0 Goodyear
21 Philippe Nicolas Team Wookey Wookey PNB69F1 Citroën SM14 V12 3,0 Michelin
22 Nicolas Cole Team Wookey Wookey PNB69F1 Citroën SM14 V12 3,1 Michelin
23 François CEVERT Tecno Racing Team Tecno TF69 (F1) Ford Cosworth DFV V8 3.0 Dunlop
24 Taka Katsumoto Team Malongo Honda RA301 Honda Bridgestone
25 Pierre SHELLER Team Vulkan Loteria Eagle T1H Ford Cosworth DFV V8 3.0 Goodyear
26 Carlos Reutemann Team Vulkan Loteria Eagle T1H Ford Cosworth DFV V8 3.0 Goodyear
28 Michel VAILLANT Ecurie Vaillante Vaillante 681B Vaillante V12 3,0 Firestone
29 Steve WARSON Ecurie Vaillante Vaillante 681B Vaillante V12 3,0 Firestone
40 Luigi MENNELLA Scuderia Centro Sud SCS P01 Alfa Romeo V8 Pirelli
41 Nathy WEHBE Scuderia Centro Sud SCS P01 Alfa Romeo V8 Pirelli
42 Antoine Yvon Scuderia Faema Bianchi Cooper T86C Alfa Romeo V8 Pirelli
56 Conrad McLeod Ecurie Bretagne McLeod 4RM Ford Cosworth DFV V8 3.0 Dunlop
72 "Razor Ramon" Escuderia Don Pedro PZ Mk 4 BRM P142 V12 3.0 Dunlop
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Re: Wookey F1 Challenge story (comments and discussion)

Message par Luigi 70 le Mar 28 Fév - 15:21

well, a break for the fifties  ...
here is the version of the Scuderia Centro Sud (P02) for the 1970 season...
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