F1 Cars that never raced in world championship & post-1945 GP rarities

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Post by Wookey on Sat 26 Nov - 16:13


same car
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Although stopping F1 program in 1973, the staff had been kept. To avoid rusting itself, Bernard Boyer team continued to work on a grand prix monoplace and at the end of 1974, the rough lines of the Matra project had been defined.
It had long, narrow radiators, had a narrow nose, was built on a long wheelbase and wide tracks. For petre quickly operational, the front suspension remained classic with brakes in the wheels, springs in the hull and rockers. The rear axle was derived from that of the MS670. The gearbox was a Hewland TL200.
The projects were designed and models made for the wind tunnel, but no rolling car was built. On December 10, 1974, JL Lagardère declared "we have a small debt to the French public, it would be to bring a French engine, with a French driver to the victory in a race of F1.
He will leave it to another chassis manufacturer to bring this engine to victory. (Ligier)
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Post by Unracedf1 on Sat 4 Mar - 23:08

Some articles i recently released on UnracedF1 i think you guys will like it.

1993 Brabham Galmer, the failed attempt to revive Brabham
1993 Jean Todt’s dream a Peugeot F1 Team
Premier 1 Grand Prix; motor sport meets football
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Ikuzawa; the team that became Stewart Grand Prix


Currently im working on several articles, probably the best article will be the one about the Unraced Minardi M3085 F3000 car (Addapted F2) with the help of Gian Carlo Minardi himself.
Im working on part 2 of the Lotus unraced history have to contact several people for it.
And i will do a last attempt the comming weeks to call Charles Nickerson to complete the Phoenix F1 story, and have all the information for once on the table. How ever if he refuses again. I will make a story of the info i have.
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Post by Wookey on Thu 20 Apr - 17:44

Wookey wrote:

Matra MS X or MS 22 project.
F1 studied for a return to competition in 1974 or 1975.

Private message received on a French forum :
Baron wrote:
J' ai contacté mon ami Roland Roy en ce qui concerne la MATRA MS X DE 1975? IL était responsable des carrosseries proto en 73 et 74 et anciens du BE .Le dessins de 3/ 4 c'est lui qui l'a réalisé en reprenant les formes qui fonctionnaient sur les protos,notamment le capot avant creusé + bosse,ensuite le BE travailla sur la MAQUETTE QUE VOUS CONNAISSEZ ,ressemblance avec la SHADOW voir pour l’implantation du V12, d’après R.ROY le B.E travailla sur ce projet notamment G.DUCAROUGE ET CARILLO dessinateur et aussi B. BOYER mais vraisemblablement pas sur ordre de JL LAGARDERE qui savait déja que la fin était proche.Dond fin 74 courant 75 DUCAROUGE ,CARILLO ET d'autres allèrent chez LIGIER avec un nouvel aérodynamicien pour créer la JS 5 ,cependant nombreuses pièces des 670 furent utilisees. Si pilote il y avait eu certainement l'élu aurait été JP Beltoise BARON

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I contacted my friend Roland Roy about MATRA MS X in 1975 He was in charge of the proto bodies in 73 and 74 and is one of the elders of the development studio. The 3/4 drawings it was he who realized it by taking again the shapes that worked on the protos, notably the front cover dug + bump, The studio worked on the MODEL YOU KNOW, similarity with the SHADOW see for the installation of the V12, according to R.ROY the studio worked on this project notably G.DUCAROUGE AND CARILLO draftsman and also B. BOYER but presumably not on order Of JL LAGARDERE who knew already that the end was near. Then at the end of 74 DUCAROUGE, CARILLO and others went to LIGIER with a new aerodynamician to create the JS 5, however many parts of the "670" were used for it. If pilot there had been certainly the elected would have been JP Beltoise.
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Post by dessipi1 on Sat 22 Apr - 10:00

1979/1980: Riviera F1 to be raced by Alberto Colombo



Car designed by Ing. Giorgio Valentini. Some of the parts were purchased from Kauhsen team. To be sponsored by Achilli Motors, Le Coq Sportif, Speedline and other private investors. (Source Alberto Colombo Autosprint no. 15/2017)
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Post by Wookey on Sat 8 Jul - 16:05



April 1978 , Willi Kauhsen Racing with Kojima tested a Kojima KE009B Ford at Hockenheim.
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Post by Unracedf1 on Sat 8 Jul - 22:30

Partner F1's story of the Russian team to enter the F1 is published Smile !

https://www.unracedf1.com/unraced1990-1999/partner-f1-the-russian-dream/
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Post by Wookey on Mon 16 Oct - 12:08


Erik Comas testing the DAMS in 1995
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Post by Wookey on Tue 17 Oct - 22:31

1979 Surtees

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Post by dr. tiroch on Fri 17 Nov - 23:50

Ikuzawa

model

Hawtal Whiting design office

Scalabroni with scale model

Hawtal Whiting

maquette





wind tunnel

John Watson tries the cockpit

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Post by Unracedf1 on Sat 18 Nov - 16:02

dr. tiroch wrote:Ikuzawa

model

Hawtal Whiting design office

Scalabroni with scale model

Hawtal Whiting

maquette





wind tunnel

John Watson tries the cockpit

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Enrique Scalabroni asked me where you got this amazing info from!
Could you tell me where you found it, it's really an amazing pic!
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